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Grandparents Rights in Ohio by a Columbus Custody and Visitation Lawyer Part 4

Grandparents Rights in OhioThis is the 4th installment in a series by Virginia Cornwell, a A State of Ohio Grandparent Rights Lawyer and Ohio State Bar Association Certified Family Relations Specialist.  Virginia is one of approximate 100 attorneys in Ohio to have received this honor.

GRANDPARENT CUSTODY IN OHIO, UNSUITABILITY (UNFIT), AND CHILDREN’S SERVICES CASES

(continued from Part 3 of the series)

Okay, so you have notified the caseworker that you want to take over the custodial rights of your grandchild, even if only temporarily.  Don’t expect anything to happen yet, you have a lot more work to do.  Now you have to notify the COURT.  This is as important if not MORE important than notifying the agency.  The agency often has different motives than the court.  The Court is more likely to recognize and properly address your rights regarding your grandson or granddaughter.

Grandparents Rights in OhioUnder Ohio Revised Code 2151.353 (Orders of Disposition of Abused, Neglected and Dependent Children), the law of Ohio provides that ONE of the options a court may choose if a child is found to be abused, neglected or dependent would be to award temporary or legal custody to A RELATIVE LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE STATE. In order for a person to be awarded legal custody, that person MUST HAVE FILED A MOTION REQUESTING LEGAL CUSTODY PRIOR TO THE DISPOSITIONAL HEARING.  This requirement bears close scrutiny, so I’ll break it down into three parts:

  • Relative must have filed a motion with the court. (You may need the help of an attorney for this – Children’s Services will not even give you the case number, much less tell you when the court hearings are)
  • The Motion must be a Motion for Custody, if that is what you want.  A Motion to Intervene is NOT the same thing as a Motion for Custody.  There are Ohio Grandparents who have lost their rights forever because their attorney filed a Motion to Intervene.  (Note that when a court WANTS to grant the grandparents custody, Ohio courts sometimes elect to “treat” the motion to intervene as if it were in fact a motion for custody, but when the court does not want to grant the custodial rights to grandparents, the court will often use this technicality as a reason for denying the award of custodial rights.  The only way to MAKE the court consider giving you custody is to file a Motion.)
  • The Motion must be filed BEFORE THE DISPOSITION HEARING.  In Ohio, abuse, neglect or dependency cases must be adjudicated within 90 days.  The disposition often happens on the same day as the adjudication.  In order to be safe, The Motion must be filed with the court and a copy mailed to all parties OR their attorneys 14 days before the 90 days expires, or before the disposition hearing, whichever is earliest.  The 90 day time period begins on the date the complaint is filed.

Grandparents Rights to See Grandchildren in OhioIn addition to filing a motion, everyone in the grandparent’s household must go through a background check, which usually involves being fingerprinted by Children’s Services.  If Children’s Services will not cooperate with you, will not return your calls, and drags their feet about performing a background check, you are probably going to have to pay for one yourself.  This can be done electronically, through fingerprinting.  Request that the results be sent to you, not to Children’s Services.  When you get the results, take them to court to show the judge or magistrate.  At that point Children’s Services will probably say that the fingerprint results are unacceptable and the magistrate will probably ask Children’s Services why they didn’t return your calls and arrange for you to be fingerprinted.  At that point, Children’s Services will probably follow through with your fingerprinting.  So why did you go through this silly, expensive ordeal?  So that Children’s Services would have to either do the background check or accept the one you had done.

Grandparents Rights in OhioAt this point, you are probably beginning to understand what a difficult ordeal that grandparents and other relatives have when trying to get custody of their grandchildren in a children’s services case.  If you have the means to afford an attorney, you are well advised to get an attorney EARLY in the case, not when it’s too late.  Because of the lack of information or incorrect information grandparents receive about their grandchildren when they are in the custody of children’s services, grandparents often wait too long to retain an attorney.  An unfortunate example of this mistake is when grandparents fail to file a motion for custody BEFORE the children are determined to be abused, neglected or dependent by a court, and instead waiting until the children have been in the custody of the agency for many months, and the agency has filed a motion to terminate parental rights.  If parental rights are terminated, grandparents may have no legal right or access to custody or visitation with their grandchildren.  Waiting and hoping that things will work out for the best may cost these grandparents dearly.  Instead, the best thing they could have done is to become involved early and if possible, hire an attorney.

Children’s Services is charged with ensuring the safety of the child.  They are going to trust a foster parent more than a relative because the foster parent is motivated to be honest with the agency and to provide supervision as required by the agency.  The agency trusts a foster parent not to release the child back to the parent who, according to the law, abused or neglected the child.  However, the children’s services agency does not have the final say in who receives custody of the child.  Grandparents and relatives CANNOT prove a negative.  They cannot prove that they are NOT going to do something.  The court knows this, but it helps to have an attorney to represent the grandparents in court.

Interstate Grandparents Rights OhioMatters are even more complicated if the grandparent seeking custody lives outside of the state of Ohio.  In order to place children outside of the state of Ohio, Children’s Services must comply with the Interstate Compact on the Placement of Children.  Pursuant to Ohio Administrative Code 5101:2-52-04, the Ohio Children’s Service Agency must make the request to the Ohio Interstate Compact on the Placement of Children Office (ICPC) of its need to obtain an evaluation of a placement resource and the receiving state’s authorization to place the child.  By simply failing to do this, a Children’s Services agency can make it difficult or impossible for a grandparent to receive custody of their child.  Therefore, the grandparent will probably have to engage the help of the court in order to receive custody of their grandchild.

The other articles in the series can be seen here:

 

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Comments

  1. B says

    In Ohio, does a Grandparent visitation order create parental rights for the Grandparent whom visitation is granted?
    Why don’t ALL counties in Ohio have a specific Grandparent visitation schedule? (like Auglaize county does)

  2. M says

    Cps has grandchild in temporary Foster care. I have done all they ask. Background check. Drug screens. I have seen my grandson one hour once a week for the last 4 weeks. My daughter is out of state in treatment. Their fear is I will get guardianship and turn him over to his mom. I have no intention of doing so. My daughter is very troubled and will take a lot of time to be able to trust her again . Cps told me that they were not going to make thus easy. I understand that, it’s just making it harder on my grandson who is only going to be 3 in November. What else can I do. The attorney I have says to do whatever they say. They want you to jump through hoops, jump. Okay, but for how long?

  3. C says

    I went to the court and filed for Emergency custody of my granddaughter. It was granted. 90 days later I have custody. No children services involved.

  4. J says

    Trying to see what I should do to get temporary custody of my grand children ages 6&13 mother is unfit the 6yrs old dad is in jail and the 13 yr old dad is no concerned at help help me before my grandbabies end up dead I am begging for help what to do

  5. JM says

    this is not right ,these laws need to be chahged ,grandparents should have rights to there grandchildren not child services period,

  6. KS says

    Can the magistrate in Juvenile court hear 2 different cases involving the same juvenile and not have it be Conflict of Interest?

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